A View of Self and Its Octaval 'Placement'

My apologies for the long gap in posting, but material life has been rather rough and I haven't been well, physically and otherwise.

I offer you the following, from Scot Mandelker, as a prologue or preface to a longer and more complex series of conversations on the nature of the mechanics of the system, the actual levels and nature of Higher Selves (Oversouls), Life Councils, the Committees and our approaching the event horizon of transhumanism and much more. Those unfamiliar with the Ra Material should see here:

Higher Self and the Mind / Body / Spirit Complex Totality

QUESTIONER: Please define the "mind / body / spirit complex totality".

RA: There is a dimension [7th density] in which time does not have sway. In this dimension, the mind / body / spirit in its eternal dance of the present may be seen in its totality, and before the soul joins with its own social memory complex [group-soul], and is finally absorbed into the allness of the One Creator through its own learning [8th density], the entity may know itself in its totality.

This "mind / body / spirit complex totality" functions as a resource for the Higher Self. The Higher Self [in 6th density] is a resource you can use to understand the distillations of 3D experience, and also program further life-experience. This set of relationships continues in 4th, 5th, and 6th densities, as the mind / body / spirit complex totality comes into consciousness in the course of 7D. {v. II}  

QUESTIONER: Does each entity have an individual mind / body / spirit complex totality or do a number of entities share the same mind / body / spirit complex totality?

RA: Both of these statements are correct in different time/space conditions. Each soul has its own totality-being, and when planetary groups achieve the level of "social memory complex" [unified group-consciousness], the totality of this union of entities also has its own Oversoul and social memory complex totality as a resource.  

As always, the sum of the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, spiritually speaking -- so that the Oversoul of a social memory complex is not merely the sum of the Oversouls of its members, but instead, it is created by a type of spiritual doubling [which greatly compounds its power]. {v. II}

The Life of Higher Self

QUESTIONER: Does this Higher Self have some type of vehicle like our physical body?

RA: This is correct. The Higher Self is of a certain advancement within 6th density, going into the 7th density. After 7D has been well entered, it becomes so totally a mind / body / spirit complex totality that it begins to gather spiritual mass and approach the octave density [8D]. Thus, the looking backwards [towards lower dimensions, 3D-6D] is finished at that point. {v. II}

QUESTIONER: Does the Higher Self break down into numerous units [souls] to have different types of life-experience [at the same time], and then oversee these experiences?

RA: We cannot say that your statement is either correct or incorrect, due to the confusions of what you call time. True simultaneity is available only when all things are truly seen to be occurring at once. The concept of "various parts" of Higher Self living "various experiences" simultaneously, is not precisely accurate due to your [distorted] understanding that this [dualistic experience] is an example of "true simultaneity". This is not the case. [In a true understanding of Unity, there are no "parts", no separate experiences or souls, no time and no space]

The case is from universe to universe [non-dual experience], and the Higher Self can program parallel existences if it needs to -- using information available from the [7D] mind / body / spirit complex totality regarding various probability lines at any point in its evolution. {v. II}

QUESTIONER: Could you give an example of how Higher Self programs parallel experiences?

RA: Perhaps the simplest example of this apparent simultaneity of existence of two selves, which are in truth actually one self at the same time/space [which is the Law of One], is what we have been considering. From your perspective, the Higher Self seems to exist simultaneously with the mind / body / spirit which it aids. However, [from the 3D perspective] this is not actually simultaneous, for the Higher Self is moving towards the soul as it is needed, from a point of development which could be considered to be your future. {v. II}

QUESTIONER: Is the Higher Self of every entity of a 6th density nature?

RA: This is correct. This is an honor/duty of self to self as one approaches 7th density.  

We should also note that each entity has several beings upon which it may call for inner support. Any of these [spiritual helpers] may be thought of as being the mind / body / spirit complex totality -- but this is not the case. The mind / body / spirit complex totality is a nebulous collection of all that may occur [all possible experiences], held in understanding. 

On the other hand, the Higher Self is a projection or manifestation of this "totality being [in 7D]", and may communicate with its own mind / body / spirit [the soul in 3D] during the discarnate part of a cycle of rebirth [after "death"], or during the physical incarnation. Such communication is possible if the proper pathways or channels through the roots of mind have been opened. {v. II}

QUESTIONER: Are these channels opened by meditation and intense spiritual polarization? 

RA: This is partially correct. Intense polarization [spiritual seeking] does not necessarily develop the will or need to contact Higher Self. Each soul's path of life experience is unique. However, given the [strong spiritual] polarization, the will is greatly enhanced and visa-versa. {v. II}

QUESTIONER: Does my Higher Self then operate from what I might consider to be my future?

RA: From the standpoint of your [3D] space/time, this is correct. {v. II} 

QUESTIONER: In that case, my Higher Self would have a great advantage in knowing what I need, since it would know what was going to happen in the future. Is this correct?

RA: This is incorrect, in that this [knowing of your future] would be an abrogation of your free will. The Higher Self is aware of the lessons learned through 6th density. The progress rate [of souls going towards 6D] is fairly well understood, but the choices which must be made to achieve the [level of] Higher Self are the full responsibility of the soul itself.  

Thus, Higher Self is like a map in which the destination is known; the roads are very well known, these roads being designed by intelligent infinity [Creator-Mind] working through intelligent energy [Creator-Power]. However, the Higher Self can program only for certain lessons and predisposing limitations if it wishes. The remainder [of one's life-experience] is completely the free choice of each entity. In this, there is a perfect balance between the known and the unknown. {v. II}

The Higher Self and 3D Programmed Catalyst

QUESTIONER: How does Higher Self program our life-catalyst in 3D?  

RA: The Higher Self, which exists with full understanding of the accumulation of all your personal experiences, helps the soul in healing the experiences which it has not yet fully learned. It is also the Higher Self that assists in further life experience programming.

The mind / body / spirit complex totality [in 7D] may be called upon by the Higher Self [in 6D], in the same way as the soul or mind / body / spirit complex [in 3D] calls upon its own Higher Self. This calling upon Higher Self is a structured situation in time and space -- and the Higher Self is aware of all the experiences of its soul, and has a firm grasp of the lessons to be learned in each density.

On the other hand, the mind / body / spirit complex totality is like the shifting sands, and can be considered a collection of parallel developments of the same soul. Its information is then made available to the Higher Self, which may then use these projected probability lines to better aid in future life programming [for souls evolving up to 6th density].{v. II}

Higher Self and the Negative Path

QUESTIONER: For souls on the negative path, is their own  6D Higher Self also negative?

RA: No negative beings have ever attained the Oversoul or Higher Self manifestation, which exists in late-6th density. Negatively oriented souls have a difficulty which, to our knowledge, has never been overcome -- for after 5th density graduation, wisdom is available, but it must be matched with an equal amount of love. This love/light is very, very difficult to achieve in unity [6D] while following the negative path. Therefore, during the earlier part of 6D, all negatively oriented social groups will choose to release the E potential and leap into 6th density positive [before achieving Higher Self].

Therefore, the Oversoul -- which makes its understanding available to all who are ready for such aid [on either path] -- is towards the positive. However, the free will of the individual is paramount, and any guidance given by Higher Self may be seen and used in either the positive or negative polarity, depending upon the choice of each entity. {v. II}

The Total Self

QUESTIONER: Does each Higher Self have a corresponding "Higher Self" advanced beyond it?

RA: Let us simplify this concept for you. The Higher Self is a manifestation given to the late sixth-density mind / body / spirit as a gift from its future Self. The mid-seventh density being's last action before turning towards the allness of the Creator [8D] and gaining spiritual mass is to give this resource [Higher Self] to its 6th density self, moving in "the stream of time".

The Higher Self of late 6D then has the honor/duty of using both the experiences of its own total living memory bank of experience, thoughts, and actions [gained on its own path to 6D], as well as the resource of the mind / body / spirit complex totality left behind [in 7D] as a type of infinitely complex thought-form [available for its own guidance]

In this way, you may see your 3D self, your 6D Higher Self or Oversoul, and your mind / body / spirit complex totality as three points in a circle. The only distinction between them is your experience of time and space. In reality, all are the same being. [This is "true simultaneity"] {v. II}

The Human Subtle Bodies

QUESTIONER: Can you tell me about the human energy bodies, their functions and purposes, and how they relate to the overall mind / body / spirit complex?

RA: To answer your query fully would take many sessions, for the interrelationships of the various bodies and each body's effects in various situations is an enormous study. However, we shall begin by referring you  back to the spectrum of true colors [7 chakras or rays] and their relationship to the various densities of your octave.

You will find that the number 7 is repeated from the macrocosm [densities or dimensions] to the microcosm [chakras or rays of the mind / body / spirit complex] in structure and experience. Therefore, it would only be expected that there would be 7 basic bodies which are most easily described according to the 7 rays [red-ray body, orange-ray body, etc.]. 

However, it will be somewhat confusing to try to relate these bodies to both the color rays and the different terms used by esoteric traditions. Various human teachers present their understanding in various terms. Therefore, different names are often given for the same subtle body.

The red-ray body is your chemical body. However, it is not the physical body which you use in 3D. It is the unconstructed material of the body, the elemental body without form [4 elements]. This basic unformed material body is important to understand, for there are healings which may be carried out by the simple understanding of the elements present in the physical vehicle.

The orange-ray body is the physical body complex, but it is still not the body you inhabit. Rather, this is a body formed without self-awareness, the body in the womb before the spirit/mind complex enters. This body may live without the inhabitation of the mind and spirit complexes. However, it seldom does so. [This is the true "body complex", without mind/spirit energy fields.]

The yellow-ray body is your physical vehicle which you know of at this time and in which you experience catalyst. This body has the [integrated] mind / body / spirit characteristics and is equal to the physical illusion, as you have called it. [It is the vehicle of all 3D experience]

The green-ray body is that body which may be seen in seance when "ectoplasm" appears. This is a lighter body packed more densely with life. Some other teachings may call this the "astral" body, while others have called it the "etheric" body. However, this is not correct, since the true etheric body is a "gateway body" through which intelligent energy can mold the mind / body / spirit complex.

The blue-ray body or light body may also be called the devachanic body [corresponding to the higher 3D "inner planes", or "heaven realm"]. There are many other names for this body, especially in your Indian Sutras, for there have been many Hindu seekers who have explored these regions and understand the various types of devachanic bodies. There are many, many types of bodies in each density, much like your own. [Thus, there are many types of blue-ray bodies]

The indigo-ray body, which we choose to call the "etheric body", is the gateway body. In this body form is and you may only see this body as pure light, as it can mold itself as it desires.

The violet-ray body may be understood as what you might call the Buddha body, or that body which is complete. [Corresponding to complete enlightenment, mind / body / spirit perfection]

Each of these bodies has an effect upon the mind / body / spirit complex in your life experience. The interrelationships are many and complex.

We will make one more suggestion: The indigo-ray body may be used by the healer once the healer is able to place its consciousness in this etheric state. The violet-ray or Buddhic body is of equal efficacy to the healer for within it lies a sense of wholeness which is extremely close to unity with all that there is. These bodies are part of each entity and the proper use and understanding of them, though far advanced from the standpoint of 3D harvest, is nevertheless useful to the adept. {v. II}

Guidance

Some might wonder what the point or purpose of guidance is, if we are here, supposedly to interact with this plane, learn to make choices, and 'do things ourselves' with 'delayed consequences'. Good question! Claire had this to say:

K: Is it possible to be 'at cause' in one's 3D life, or is this New Age hokum?
C: What do you think this conversation is, if not being at cause? [as opposed to being a victim?]

Then Franz:
F: What must be considered is who or what is exerting control? Higher Self? The Life Council? Various resonances of 'other selves'? The basic, unmediated embryonic ego? You can see that discerning who or what is very important.

In the present case, it would be fair to say that the persona (ego plus soul inserted into the body) wants to have a greater hand in ' shaping matters'. To do this I would suggest that you follow the instructions for shaping matter: visualisation, putting out energy of a particular need or desire to those who can fulfill it, then 'checking in' with one of us as to whether it is on course for the life plan, so as to avoid wasted effort.

I don;t mean to say that you should do this with every little decision or choice in your life, but the larger ones would benefit from such checking in. It is of benefit to study how this works so as not be be forever bashing your head against brick walls, as you would say.

The Unquiet Dead

Meeting, Theatre Office, Claire, Amy

They are in the mica-shaded light of the tiny office, discussing the progress of recent returnees in adapting to life here. Claire is wearing soft woolen khaki trousers and a white shirt, like old days when Franz was Director, but her fuzzy golden brown hair is soft. Amy is wearing overalls and a dark blue show t-shirt (The Incredible Mr. Cassinov), and braids. Apparently, one of the most recent is having a very hard time with the 'calls' from his wife who is still incarnate and they are deciding what to do about it.

C: Taking him to the border and letting him see and be heard could be dangerous, or at least more upsetting than it's worth.

A: But you remember what happened to [X]

Several months ago, a similar situation happened and the discarnate was 'strongly advised against' going down near enough to be heard by a loved one, and, following the advice, became so despairing that they had to return to the Rest Center, to be put into a kind of coma until they recover. They are still there.

This begs the question of free will; indeed, of communication with the discarnate from this side at all. Claire, if I may? (We go into the aisle of the house.)

C: Those who come here, who manage to get here without being caught up in the Borderlands or the Midlands, or be so shell-shocked that they need a rest cure, have work to do in sorting themselves out, in acclimatising before they can properly focus and review the life with their guide before going to the Council with their conclusions. This acclimatisation is hindered if they are continually called upon by the incarnate in an emotional manner. The HS or guide should be the one to handle the incarnate's emotion, not the one here. Your traditional cultures have guidelines about this transition period. Your own English-based culture used to have a similar period of a year and a day, when the grave was let to lie and sink before a stone was put up. The family members were encouraged to spend that time in seclusion, away from the grave, before your secular world took over in the 1600s. Those of your present societies who practise shamanism know these proscriptions well. You have wondered often at 'not hearing from' various family members who have come here for long periods after their transition. This is the reason. They are busy. We are busy helping them adjust. Some take longer than others. This is the origin of the phrase 'let the dead bury the dead', as the Judaic culture has this as well.

K: So, what should we say to those who have loved ones who have transitioned, and are having a hard time of it?

C: Prevail upon their friends there to aid and succour them. Or if they are amenable, explain to them that they can call on their HS and guides and we will answer. But make clear that the departed one is busy adjusting to 'eternal' life and making their life review.

K: Thank you. On this subject, what do you do with someone there who insist on interacting with incarnate people in this period?

C: We try our best to dissuade them, but if they insist, they will be escorted to the Borderlands by a guide, not necessarily their own guide and teacher, and watched over during the process. However, more often than not, the experiment is a failure, because while the grieved want communication, they are not of a vibrational pattern to actually experience it.

K: I presume that the companion is there not just as a scout to show the way, but to help them if they should go off the rails, as it were?

C: That is correct. The success of the mental state following such an attempt depends entirely on the vibrational level and experience of the one here. However, it is true that largely, those who request such visits are coming off of a Baby-to-Early Mature soul age life [not that the fragment is actually OF that age, they were just putting on the level for that life role.] Younger souls are typically more malleable and interested in being taken care of, and older souls are too busy enjoying being back and getting back into their lives and homes here.

K: Thank you. This brings up the matter of the Borderlands and retrievals, but I know that you are busy, so I will let you get back to work.

Claire signals an indigo blue/purple light flash – her vibrational signature and level – with a benevolent expression, and then is back in the office with Amy.

Ensemble Cast

Before recording any discussions, I thought I should introduce you to the main people with whom I interact, and my places. These are the people I work with, study with, study under, live with, visit often, and regularly encounter.

My work interactions happen in either the Theatre, which is a form of the Theatre Royal, Drury Lane in London; or in the Life Council chambers, which are in an area nearby, where everyone on Earth does their immediate past-life review and pre-life processing. Think Defending Your Life. That was a humourous take on the area, and not far wrong.

My "personal life" interactions happen in a cabin in the EcoVillage, which is a fairly new living area at the border between the Upper Astral and the Mental Plane, convenient for all who happen by; in the Villa, a Georgian house on Lake Geneva, inhabited by souls who were formerly Franz Liszt and George Gordon, Lord Byron; and sometimes at my father's house in the mountains.

For simplicity's sake, I will confine myself to the English names these folks have had. They go by other names, and it's best not to be attached to any particular name.

My most common interactions are with my Spirit, Oversoul, or Higher Self, Claire. She/I-There is the Assistant Director of the Theatre, a teacher, and a junior member of the Life Councils (which means "watch and learn and once in a while you will be allowed to ask questions".)

Next are my teachers/guides. I have a Senior teacher, Franz, and a Junior, George. Franz is now a member of the Life Councils and working with the Committee(s) who generate the Big Picture scenarios in the 3D; George is the Director of the Theatre, and is learning to "create roles", that is, lifetimes such as yours and mine. My other teacher is Madame (Maggie), who was my first teacher, of elementals, and from whom I learned to manage psyches, both in creating mind-states and managing people who are incarnating (something akin to a psychologist.) Presently, I am learning to take on her role in teaching the infant Spirits elementals - how to navigate in holoworlds under supervision, so to get their sea legs in terms of interacting with others.

The other person I interact with most frequently is Amy, our Stage Manager, with whom I personally as a soul and several of Claire's other "me's" have known in incarnations as friends, relatives, cohorts, and admired figures.

On a personal note, I frequently have conversations with my Dad (Ben), my mother (Natalie), both of whom have transitioned from earthly life. Less often I have conversations with my mother-in-law (Lorraine), my grandmother (Helen, or Mudd), and sometimes old friends Ed Carter and Johnny.

For now, this will do. The Grand Tour is next.